/Metadata 18 0 R/Outlines 35 0 R/PageLayout/OneColumn/Pages 126 0 R/StructTreeRoot 48 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 130 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 131 0 obj <>stream But when moving, the forces applied are considerably larger due to inertia etc., hence the massive difference. It’s almost impossible, and your roof cops it way worse than that. A distinction must be made between dynamic and static load capacity. For most roof top tents, there’s a straight forward roof rack combination that will work for your vehicle. Using that set-up, it is still under the 165lbs dynamic weight limit. The load ratings applied to products by roof rack manufacturers and the car manufacturing are for when you are driving the vehicle on sealed roads, i.e. Hey Aaron, ARB Ascent canopy with Rhinorack VA bars? So tent weight allowed = 220 - rail crossbars weight. On a dual cab Ute this often means on the cab instead of the canopy. There is a lot of confusion out there, so let me simplify it. It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? Our rack itself can handle significantly more weight than that, and we've had 250 lbs dynamic weight on it without issue, static capacity is certainly well above that. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. How much do you really know about 4WD insurance? Right? 100kg on the roof equates to a massive amount of force every time you bounce up, down and side to side. Roof racks are the ideal storage area for light weight, bulky items like solar panels, Maxtrax, camp chairs, tables, tents, portable toilets, fishing rods and swags. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? ?IR�k ����z���GV,�h�=�o�HV$���{:�. Already, people are really starting to see the importance of overall 4WD weight. I’ve just bought a new (Sep’18) LC200 GXL with roof rails & trying to get info re roof rail carrying capacity. Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. In the manual it says roof load capacity 80kg – is it possible to install descent roof racks and have a tent loaded up? I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. Thanks for the response. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. If you are a passenger in a 4WD, try and hold your arms out and keep them there while you are bouncing around. Any of the better known manufacturers (ARB, Tracklander, Rhino Rack etc) are good to look at, to see how things are done properly. Not sure if there’s a Facebook group or forums for those vehicles either; surely you aren’t the first person to do this with an Outlander. Suggestions? What should be the distance between the cross bars? I reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of any company quoting static or dynamic weights – normally its just assumed to be the latter. You will not see any standard roof racks, camper shells, or common vehicle roofs rated for a dynamic rating of 450+lbs. Actually my current set up is yakima timberline crossbar kit that weigh about 15lbs and a treeline outdoor 2-3 person tent that weigh around 130lbs. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. If you want to know more about getting the perfect Ute canopy for your requirements, check this out; Buying a 4WD Ute Canopy; the ultimate guide. It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. (plus body weight obviously?) Some of my first choices were the Gobi Stealth Rack, BajaRack Utility (Flat) Rack with sunroof cut out, Front Runner Slimline 2 Roof Rack, and the Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform roof rack. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. A typical Whispbar or Yakima roof carrying solution consists of: • A vehicle roof (obvious, right?) I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. While the vehicle is in motion, many of these external factors will have a role in having an effect on the dynamic weight limit of your roof rack. Combine that with good quality clamps and you have a great roof rack. So in this instance, the LocknLoad platform effectively serves as the "crossbars." Several years ago we hit a nasty hole on a track out the back of Dwellingup in a 4WD with a cheap set of roof racks bolted on, and the force slid the whole arrangement forward about 200mm along the gutters. Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! Outback Joe has written an interesting post on that very topic – check it out here – https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/. It’s a big car. Beyond that, you have a ‘moral’ responsibility to drive a legal vehicle. 150 0 obj <>stream Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. The weight "recommended" by the roof rack manufacturer for the RR, has little bearing on this. That can’t be right can it? @MaximusThree ROOF RACK 900+ Pound Static Weight Limit & 300+ Pound…” Remember that the load capacity includes everything on the roof; gear plus any racks etc you mount up there. You need to verify this spec for both the vehicle and your roof rack. Asides from a lot of paint removed from the gutters and a bit of damaged pride, life continued. Look at the welds too; they should be smooth, have decent penetration (not look like the weld is sitting on top of the metal) and no holes or abnormalities. Whispbar removable roof racks are the quietest roof bars available and can be moved between cars using the latest smart foot technology. Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. There is a lengthy but complete discussion of the dynamic weight rating vs static weight rating of your car or truck’s roof rack here: Roof Loading and Roof Top Tents. To check if a roof-top tent will work on your vehicle, look up the following information: Total tent weight: That should be in the tent's product specs. I have a mate who is up for just under a grand to have his roof repaired from a poor quality steel rack that dripped rusty water onto his roof. Cheers It’s just a pain that I can’t find anywhere the owner’s manual for my Holden Frontera from 1999 and with 2 doors. Major rust under there. Car and rack dynamic weight capacity: This measures the ability to support that tent weight while you're driving. The load ratings of 220lbs and 165lbs that the website references is for dynamic weight. Additional cross bars are available for purchase. Static Load vs. The dynamic weight capacity for any roof rack that we suggest, should have a dynamic weight limit of 165 lbs or more. In most cases, the static weight capacity of a pallet will far exceed its dynamic capacity or edge-rackable capacity. Good on you for taking the time to look into it. Many roof-top tent owners in the States talk about how a high vantage point resonates with them on a primal level. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. I spoke to someone recently who did the Canning Stock Route with a lot of weight up the top, and they could physically see the A pillars flexing under the stress. You can pretty clearly see evidence of this based on the way a roof rack is mounted to the vehicle, how the weight is distributed and how well its clamped down. Yep, lets say you have 150kg on a roof rack and roll your 4WD on the edge of a sand dune. So basically while driving, at-most I can put 220lbs of weight ("dynamic weight") on the roof rack. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. 141 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<136EDDA8A7B2CD42B6438EDDB7A9C4B6>]/Index[128 23]/Info 127 0 R/Length 75/Prev 221511/Root 129 0 R/Size 151/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! 0 Go over it though, and expect to see damage in time to the roof of your vehicle and the roof racks. If they are the genuine roof racks, find out what they are rated to. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. Real world examples? The static weight limit -when parked-can be higher than the dynamic weight. As well those are small screws holding the factory rack to the roof and roof sheetmetal tends to get banged up real easy these days. When you are stopped, the roof capacity is substantially higher. Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. Eventually something has to break! of an evenly distributed product on the pallet. Think carefully about how you spread the weight. I’m surprised the limit is that low. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Making these racks perfect for your iKamper, Tepui, or Yakima Roof Top Tent (RTT). There’s nothing worse than having to struggle with hooks that don’t fit over the support bars just to safely store your gear. Yours. Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. Dynamic vs Static Loads Dynamic is when you are driving your vehicle and there is motion . This is the maximum load while driving. I would say you’d get away with it no problems unless you were doing nasty roads, but if it ever came off and hurt someone it could be problematic for you. For custom and unlisted vehicles it is up to the installer to determine the maximum weight for the given application. However, it goes beyond this; you will have an on road rating, and an off road roof rack rating, which is usually 50 – 75% of the rated on road capacity. Aerodynamic in design, the 03-09 GX470 Aluminum Roof Rack for sale comes standard with 8 aluminum cross bars. This is particularly the case with dual cabs, who start at a big disadvantage when it comes to load position relative to the rear axle. A bump just beyond what your vehicle will handle can lay it on its side, and when you have over 100kg on the roof that happens so much easier. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. A dynamic load refers to the weight that is placed on an object and then put in motion. Whether its just strong mesh, or little hooks in convenient locations, its worth paying attention to. 1. %%EOF Not very good when its mounted to a 4WD! I’ve seen roof racks designed to carry 60kg, but it clearly says not suitable for offroad use. hޜ�mO9ǿ�_^UQ? Thanks a lot for sharing! thoughts? What do you think? Our stock mounting hardware will fit rack bars with a cross-section of 3.25" width x 1.5" height. I doubt that you could argue that fitting more cross beams would increase the rating. Not sure if Nissan is talking about static or dynamic? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? There is a vast difference in quality between roof racks on 4WD’s. Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. • Static vs dynamic forces • On road vs off road usage Calculating Load Ratings To calculate the load rating of your vehicle’s roof, you first need to understand that this needs to be derived from the ratings of various components. I called Mitsubishi today and customer care said they’ll get back to me. Most 4WD’s can do up to 100kg, with a few at 150kg and very few higher. I guess it boils down to the weight limit of the 4runner being only 165 lbs (dynamic). Though roof-top tents have become a phenomenon in the U.S. in recent years, they’ve been around for decades in Australia, where camping above the realm of creepy crawlies was instantly recognized as a genius idea. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. thoughts? I used my ob roof rack to carry two 14'+ kayaks for a season. I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. Regardless of who you have 4WD Insurance with, every policy requires the vehicle to be in a roadworthy state. I find having a cage version all the way around fantastic, as it stops things moving forward and side to side. If you are just climbing up and down and sleeping in the tent you won’t have an issue, unless you are well over double the dynamic rating. I would strongly advise not putting that much weight up there as it will hugely affect the handling and safety. Be sure again, to check the on road and off road weight ratings, and stick within them! I won’t bore you with the maths, but the static load, or the load when you are standing still, is roughly 10x this. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. . The 200 series Landcruiser roof carrying capacity is 200kg, for example. The static weight limit can be higher than the dynamic weight. The roof will take this all day, every day, providing you are within the rated capacities. When you are travelling on rough tracks, side angles are dangerous. Then the pallet could be placed on a conveyor system or be moved around a warehouse by a forklift. Instead of the weight of your roof racks being spread over 2 – 5 mounts, it is evenly spread along the whole length of the gutter. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Is it even worth considering? Whilst roof racks might be an easy place to store gear, the less weight up top the better. It’s on a 2016 Hilux. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. When a 4WD is designed and built, the manufacturer gives it a maximum roof loading rating. 128 0 obj <> endobj Great article and it’s opened my eyes, I now point at 4wd’s on the road and go “overloaded”. I wasn’t expecting to have so much issue due to the unusual model. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? 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The load ratings applied to products by roof rack manufacturers and the car manufacturing are for when you are driving the vehicle on sealed roads, i.e. Hey Aaron, ARB Ascent canopy with Rhinorack VA bars? So tent weight allowed = 220 - rail crossbars weight. On a dual cab Ute this often means on the cab instead of the canopy. There is a lot of confusion out there, so let me simplify it. It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? Our rack itself can handle significantly more weight than that, and we've had 250 lbs dynamic weight on it without issue, static capacity is certainly well above that. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. How much do you really know about 4WD insurance? Right? 100kg on the roof equates to a massive amount of force every time you bounce up, down and side to side. Roof racks are the ideal storage area for light weight, bulky items like solar panels, Maxtrax, camp chairs, tables, tents, portable toilets, fishing rods and swags. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? ?IR�k ����z���GV,�h�=�o�HV$���{:�. Already, people are really starting to see the importance of overall 4WD weight. I’ve just bought a new (Sep’18) LC200 GXL with roof rails & trying to get info re roof rail carrying capacity. Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. In the manual it says roof load capacity 80kg – is it possible to install descent roof racks and have a tent loaded up? I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. Thanks for the response. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. If you are a passenger in a 4WD, try and hold your arms out and keep them there while you are bouncing around. Any of the better known manufacturers (ARB, Tracklander, Rhino Rack etc) are good to look at, to see how things are done properly. Not sure if there’s a Facebook group or forums for those vehicles either; surely you aren’t the first person to do this with an Outlander. Suggestions? What should be the distance between the cross bars? I reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of any company quoting static or dynamic weights – normally its just assumed to be the latter. You will not see any standard roof racks, camper shells, or common vehicle roofs rated for a dynamic rating of 450+lbs. Actually my current set up is yakima timberline crossbar kit that weigh about 15lbs and a treeline outdoor 2-3 person tent that weigh around 130lbs. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. If you want to know more about getting the perfect Ute canopy for your requirements, check this out; Buying a 4WD Ute Canopy; the ultimate guide. It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. (plus body weight obviously?) Some of my first choices were the Gobi Stealth Rack, BajaRack Utility (Flat) Rack with sunroof cut out, Front Runner Slimline 2 Roof Rack, and the Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform roof rack. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. A typical Whispbar or Yakima roof carrying solution consists of: • A vehicle roof (obvious, right?) I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. While the vehicle is in motion, many of these external factors will have a role in having an effect on the dynamic weight limit of your roof rack. Combine that with good quality clamps and you have a great roof rack. So in this instance, the LocknLoad platform effectively serves as the "crossbars." Several years ago we hit a nasty hole on a track out the back of Dwellingup in a 4WD with a cheap set of roof racks bolted on, and the force slid the whole arrangement forward about 200mm along the gutters. Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! Outback Joe has written an interesting post on that very topic – check it out here – https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/. It’s a big car. Beyond that, you have a ‘moral’ responsibility to drive a legal vehicle. 150 0 obj <>stream Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. The weight "recommended" by the roof rack manufacturer for the RR, has little bearing on this. That can’t be right can it? @MaximusThree ROOF RACK 900+ Pound Static Weight Limit & 300+ Pound…” Remember that the load capacity includes everything on the roof; gear plus any racks etc you mount up there. You need to verify this spec for both the vehicle and your roof rack. Asides from a lot of paint removed from the gutters and a bit of damaged pride, life continued. Look at the welds too; they should be smooth, have decent penetration (not look like the weld is sitting on top of the metal) and no holes or abnormalities. Whispbar removable roof racks are the quietest roof bars available and can be moved between cars using the latest smart foot technology. Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. There is a lengthy but complete discussion of the dynamic weight rating vs static weight rating of your car or truck’s roof rack here: Roof Loading and Roof Top Tents. To check if a roof-top tent will work on your vehicle, look up the following information: Total tent weight: That should be in the tent's product specs. I have a mate who is up for just under a grand to have his roof repaired from a poor quality steel rack that dripped rusty water onto his roof. Cheers It’s just a pain that I can’t find anywhere the owner’s manual for my Holden Frontera from 1999 and with 2 doors. Major rust under there. Car and rack dynamic weight capacity: This measures the ability to support that tent weight while you're driving. The load ratings of 220lbs and 165lbs that the website references is for dynamic weight. Additional cross bars are available for purchase. Static Load vs. The dynamic weight capacity for any roof rack that we suggest, should have a dynamic weight limit of 165 lbs or more. In most cases, the static weight capacity of a pallet will far exceed its dynamic capacity or edge-rackable capacity. Good on you for taking the time to look into it. Many roof-top tent owners in the States talk about how a high vantage point resonates with them on a primal level. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. I spoke to someone recently who did the Canning Stock Route with a lot of weight up the top, and they could physically see the A pillars flexing under the stress. You can pretty clearly see evidence of this based on the way a roof rack is mounted to the vehicle, how the weight is distributed and how well its clamped down. Yep, lets say you have 150kg on a roof rack and roll your 4WD on the edge of a sand dune. So basically while driving, at-most I can put 220lbs of weight ("dynamic weight") on the roof rack. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. 141 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<136EDDA8A7B2CD42B6438EDDB7A9C4B6>]/Index[128 23]/Info 127 0 R/Length 75/Prev 221511/Root 129 0 R/Size 151/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! 0 Go over it though, and expect to see damage in time to the roof of your vehicle and the roof racks. If they are the genuine roof racks, find out what they are rated to. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. Real world examples? The static weight limit -when parked-can be higher than the dynamic weight. As well those are small screws holding the factory rack to the roof and roof sheetmetal tends to get banged up real easy these days. When you are stopped, the roof capacity is substantially higher. Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. Eventually something has to break! of an evenly distributed product on the pallet. Think carefully about how you spread the weight. I’m surprised the limit is that low. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Making these racks perfect for your iKamper, Tepui, or Yakima Roof Top Tent (RTT). There’s nothing worse than having to struggle with hooks that don’t fit over the support bars just to safely store your gear. Yours. Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. Dynamic vs Static Loads Dynamic is when you are driving your vehicle and there is motion . This is the maximum load while driving. I would say you’d get away with it no problems unless you were doing nasty roads, but if it ever came off and hurt someone it could be problematic for you. For custom and unlisted vehicles it is up to the installer to determine the maximum weight for the given application. However, it goes beyond this; you will have an on road rating, and an off road roof rack rating, which is usually 50 – 75% of the rated on road capacity. Aerodynamic in design, the 03-09 GX470 Aluminum Roof Rack for sale comes standard with 8 aluminum cross bars. This is particularly the case with dual cabs, who start at a big disadvantage when it comes to load position relative to the rear axle. A bump just beyond what your vehicle will handle can lay it on its side, and when you have over 100kg on the roof that happens so much easier. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. A dynamic load refers to the weight that is placed on an object and then put in motion. Whether its just strong mesh, or little hooks in convenient locations, its worth paying attention to. 1. %%EOF Not very good when its mounted to a 4WD! I’ve seen roof racks designed to carry 60kg, but it clearly says not suitable for offroad use. hޜ�mO9ǿ�_^UQ? Thanks a lot for sharing! thoughts? What do you think? Our stock mounting hardware will fit rack bars with a cross-section of 3.25" width x 1.5" height. I doubt that you could argue that fitting more cross beams would increase the rating. Not sure if Nissan is talking about static or dynamic? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? There is a vast difference in quality between roof racks on 4WD’s. Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. • Static vs dynamic forces • On road vs off road usage Calculating Load Ratings To calculate the load rating of your vehicle’s roof, you first need to understand that this needs to be derived from the ratings of various components. I called Mitsubishi today and customer care said they’ll get back to me. Most 4WD’s can do up to 100kg, with a few at 150kg and very few higher. I guess it boils down to the weight limit of the 4runner being only 165 lbs (dynamic). Though roof-top tents have become a phenomenon in the U.S. in recent years, they’ve been around for decades in Australia, where camping above the realm of creepy crawlies was instantly recognized as a genius idea. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. thoughts? I used my ob roof rack to carry two 14'+ kayaks for a season. I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. Regardless of who you have 4WD Insurance with, every policy requires the vehicle to be in a roadworthy state. I find having a cage version all the way around fantastic, as it stops things moving forward and side to side. If you are just climbing up and down and sleeping in the tent you won’t have an issue, unless you are well over double the dynamic rating. I would strongly advise not putting that much weight up there as it will hugely affect the handling and safety. Be sure again, to check the on road and off road weight ratings, and stick within them! I won’t bore you with the maths, but the static load, or the load when you are standing still, is roughly 10x this. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. . The 200 series Landcruiser roof carrying capacity is 200kg, for example. The static weight limit can be higher than the dynamic weight. The roof will take this all day, every day, providing you are within the rated capacities. When you are travelling on rough tracks, side angles are dangerous. Then the pallet could be placed on a conveyor system or be moved around a warehouse by a forklift. Instead of the weight of your roof racks being spread over 2 – 5 mounts, it is evenly spread along the whole length of the gutter. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Is it even worth considering? Whilst roof racks might be an easy place to store gear, the less weight up top the better. It’s on a 2016 Hilux. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. When a 4WD is designed and built, the manufacturer gives it a maximum roof loading rating. 128 0 obj <> endobj Great article and it’s opened my eyes, I now point at 4wd’s on the road and go “overloaded”. I wasn’t expecting to have so much issue due to the unusual model. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? 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The load ratings applied to products by roof rack manufacturers and the car manufacturing are for when you are driving the vehicle on sealed roads, i.e. Hey Aaron, ARB Ascent canopy with Rhinorack VA bars? So tent weight allowed = 220 - rail crossbars weight. On a dual cab Ute this often means on the cab instead of the canopy. There is a lot of confusion out there, so let me simplify it. It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? Our rack itself can handle significantly more weight than that, and we've had 250 lbs dynamic weight on it without issue, static capacity is certainly well above that. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. How much do you really know about 4WD insurance? Right? 100kg on the roof equates to a massive amount of force every time you bounce up, down and side to side. Roof racks are the ideal storage area for light weight, bulky items like solar panels, Maxtrax, camp chairs, tables, tents, portable toilets, fishing rods and swags. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? ?IR�k ����z���GV,�h�=�o�HV$���{:�. Already, people are really starting to see the importance of overall 4WD weight. I’ve just bought a new (Sep’18) LC200 GXL with roof rails & trying to get info re roof rail carrying capacity. Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. In the manual it says roof load capacity 80kg – is it possible to install descent roof racks and have a tent loaded up? I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. Thanks for the response. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. If you are a passenger in a 4WD, try and hold your arms out and keep them there while you are bouncing around. Any of the better known manufacturers (ARB, Tracklander, Rhino Rack etc) are good to look at, to see how things are done properly. Not sure if there’s a Facebook group or forums for those vehicles either; surely you aren’t the first person to do this with an Outlander. Suggestions? What should be the distance between the cross bars? I reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of any company quoting static or dynamic weights – normally its just assumed to be the latter. You will not see any standard roof racks, camper shells, or common vehicle roofs rated for a dynamic rating of 450+lbs. Actually my current set up is yakima timberline crossbar kit that weigh about 15lbs and a treeline outdoor 2-3 person tent that weigh around 130lbs. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. If you want to know more about getting the perfect Ute canopy for your requirements, check this out; Buying a 4WD Ute Canopy; the ultimate guide. It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. (plus body weight obviously?) Some of my first choices were the Gobi Stealth Rack, BajaRack Utility (Flat) Rack with sunroof cut out, Front Runner Slimline 2 Roof Rack, and the Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform roof rack. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. A typical Whispbar or Yakima roof carrying solution consists of: • A vehicle roof (obvious, right?) I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. While the vehicle is in motion, many of these external factors will have a role in having an effect on the dynamic weight limit of your roof rack. Combine that with good quality clamps and you have a great roof rack. So in this instance, the LocknLoad platform effectively serves as the "crossbars." Several years ago we hit a nasty hole on a track out the back of Dwellingup in a 4WD with a cheap set of roof racks bolted on, and the force slid the whole arrangement forward about 200mm along the gutters. Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! Outback Joe has written an interesting post on that very topic – check it out here – https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/. It’s a big car. Beyond that, you have a ‘moral’ responsibility to drive a legal vehicle. 150 0 obj <>stream Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. The weight "recommended" by the roof rack manufacturer for the RR, has little bearing on this. That can’t be right can it? @MaximusThree ROOF RACK 900+ Pound Static Weight Limit & 300+ Pound…” Remember that the load capacity includes everything on the roof; gear plus any racks etc you mount up there. You need to verify this spec for both the vehicle and your roof rack. Asides from a lot of paint removed from the gutters and a bit of damaged pride, life continued. Look at the welds too; they should be smooth, have decent penetration (not look like the weld is sitting on top of the metal) and no holes or abnormalities. Whispbar removable roof racks are the quietest roof bars available and can be moved between cars using the latest smart foot technology. Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. There is a lengthy but complete discussion of the dynamic weight rating vs static weight rating of your car or truck’s roof rack here: Roof Loading and Roof Top Tents. To check if a roof-top tent will work on your vehicle, look up the following information: Total tent weight: That should be in the tent's product specs. I have a mate who is up for just under a grand to have his roof repaired from a poor quality steel rack that dripped rusty water onto his roof. Cheers It’s just a pain that I can’t find anywhere the owner’s manual for my Holden Frontera from 1999 and with 2 doors. Major rust under there. Car and rack dynamic weight capacity: This measures the ability to support that tent weight while you're driving. The load ratings of 220lbs and 165lbs that the website references is for dynamic weight. Additional cross bars are available for purchase. Static Load vs. The dynamic weight capacity for any roof rack that we suggest, should have a dynamic weight limit of 165 lbs or more. In most cases, the static weight capacity of a pallet will far exceed its dynamic capacity or edge-rackable capacity. Good on you for taking the time to look into it. Many roof-top tent owners in the States talk about how a high vantage point resonates with them on a primal level. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. I spoke to someone recently who did the Canning Stock Route with a lot of weight up the top, and they could physically see the A pillars flexing under the stress. You can pretty clearly see evidence of this based on the way a roof rack is mounted to the vehicle, how the weight is distributed and how well its clamped down. Yep, lets say you have 150kg on a roof rack and roll your 4WD on the edge of a sand dune. So basically while driving, at-most I can put 220lbs of weight ("dynamic weight") on the roof rack. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. 141 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<136EDDA8A7B2CD42B6438EDDB7A9C4B6>]/Index[128 23]/Info 127 0 R/Length 75/Prev 221511/Root 129 0 R/Size 151/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! 0 Go over it though, and expect to see damage in time to the roof of your vehicle and the roof racks. If they are the genuine roof racks, find out what they are rated to. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. Real world examples? The static weight limit -when parked-can be higher than the dynamic weight. As well those are small screws holding the factory rack to the roof and roof sheetmetal tends to get banged up real easy these days. When you are stopped, the roof capacity is substantially higher. Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. Eventually something has to break! of an evenly distributed product on the pallet. Think carefully about how you spread the weight. I’m surprised the limit is that low. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Making these racks perfect for your iKamper, Tepui, or Yakima Roof Top Tent (RTT). There’s nothing worse than having to struggle with hooks that don’t fit over the support bars just to safely store your gear. Yours. Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. Dynamic vs Static Loads Dynamic is when you are driving your vehicle and there is motion . This is the maximum load while driving. I would say you’d get away with it no problems unless you were doing nasty roads, but if it ever came off and hurt someone it could be problematic for you. For custom and unlisted vehicles it is up to the installer to determine the maximum weight for the given application. However, it goes beyond this; you will have an on road rating, and an off road roof rack rating, which is usually 50 – 75% of the rated on road capacity. Aerodynamic in design, the 03-09 GX470 Aluminum Roof Rack for sale comes standard with 8 aluminum cross bars. This is particularly the case with dual cabs, who start at a big disadvantage when it comes to load position relative to the rear axle. A bump just beyond what your vehicle will handle can lay it on its side, and when you have over 100kg on the roof that happens so much easier. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. A dynamic load refers to the weight that is placed on an object and then put in motion. Whether its just strong mesh, or little hooks in convenient locations, its worth paying attention to. 1. %%EOF Not very good when its mounted to a 4WD! I’ve seen roof racks designed to carry 60kg, but it clearly says not suitable for offroad use. hޜ�mO9ǿ�_^UQ? Thanks a lot for sharing! thoughts? What do you think? Our stock mounting hardware will fit rack bars with a cross-section of 3.25" width x 1.5" height. I doubt that you could argue that fitting more cross beams would increase the rating. Not sure if Nissan is talking about static or dynamic? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? There is a vast difference in quality between roof racks on 4WD’s. Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. • Static vs dynamic forces • On road vs off road usage Calculating Load Ratings To calculate the load rating of your vehicle’s roof, you first need to understand that this needs to be derived from the ratings of various components. I called Mitsubishi today and customer care said they’ll get back to me. Most 4WD’s can do up to 100kg, with a few at 150kg and very few higher. I guess it boils down to the weight limit of the 4runner being only 165 lbs (dynamic). Though roof-top tents have become a phenomenon in the U.S. in recent years, they’ve been around for decades in Australia, where camping above the realm of creepy crawlies was instantly recognized as a genius idea. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. thoughts? I used my ob roof rack to carry two 14'+ kayaks for a season. I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. Regardless of who you have 4WD Insurance with, every policy requires the vehicle to be in a roadworthy state. I find having a cage version all the way around fantastic, as it stops things moving forward and side to side. If you are just climbing up and down and sleeping in the tent you won’t have an issue, unless you are well over double the dynamic rating. I would strongly advise not putting that much weight up there as it will hugely affect the handling and safety. Be sure again, to check the on road and off road weight ratings, and stick within them! I won’t bore you with the maths, but the static load, or the load when you are standing still, is roughly 10x this. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. . The 200 series Landcruiser roof carrying capacity is 200kg, for example. The static weight limit can be higher than the dynamic weight. The roof will take this all day, every day, providing you are within the rated capacities. When you are travelling on rough tracks, side angles are dangerous. Then the pallet could be placed on a conveyor system or be moved around a warehouse by a forklift. Instead of the weight of your roof racks being spread over 2 – 5 mounts, it is evenly spread along the whole length of the gutter. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Is it even worth considering? Whilst roof racks might be an easy place to store gear, the less weight up top the better. It’s on a 2016 Hilux. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. When a 4WD is designed and built, the manufacturer gives it a maximum roof loading rating. 128 0 obj <> endobj Great article and it’s opened my eyes, I now point at 4wd’s on the road and go “overloaded”. I wasn’t expecting to have so much issue due to the unusual model. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? If you, like myself, have a a family and a few kids running around, I’m sure you’ll agree that going on extended trips and weekend camp outs are way different compared to when you’re traveling solo or with your mates. For example, a pallet rated for a dynamic load of 2000 lbs means you can put up to 2000 lbs. Another doubt is about how much of weight can the roof rack sustain when stationary? Not only is it putting your vehicle and passengers at risk, it can void your insurance and cause serious problems in the event of an accident, or even be the cause of an accident in the first place. Moving, the weight that is placed on a roof rack again Ascent canopy with Rhinorack VA bars day... Roof cops it way worse than that care said they ’ ll quickly mention,... Putting on the panels of your roof rack recommendations from your total rating have so much issue due inertia! 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Static load rating measures the racks weight capacity when it is installed, while dynamic load rating measures its weight capacity when it is being rolled on its casters. Give Mitsubishi a call to confirm, but if its like most 4WD’s you can easily mount a roof top tent and have two adults in it, as long as you aren’t driving around! The tent's static weight capacity is stated for each tent. However, you’ll see that the better quality racks clamp down extremely well; they are intended to carry the weight safely both on and off road. Is it really worth the risk? Data from the Rhino Rack site. One of the better designs I’ve seen is to have a length of flat bar running down the inside of your gutters. The rating given by the vehicle manufacturer is a dynamic rating, which means its meant for when you are bouncing around on a 4WD track. There’s a roof rack weight limit for every single rack and set of bars sold, along with a set of conditions for their use. Next time you are bouncing your way along a tough 4WD track, spare a thought for how your roof and the roof rack feels! Holden should be able to give you an answer, and if they don’t, I would assume 100kg. Which roof rack solutions will fit my car? Rack systems below have weight capacities of up to 800-pounds static weight. What canopy and racks is it? So for example, a Hilux has a dynamic load limit of around 68kg (static load roughly 680kg), and therefore you can have your wife and 2 fat kids up there in your rooftop tent at night with you quite comfortably. In a dynamic load, it might change abruptly during acceleration or deceleration or weight may shift from one area to another. Consider how much extra force 80kg of weight bouncing up and down would apply to the roof. This spreads the load, and reduces the chances of a bent ute chassis. Hit a good speed bump or such and your load momentarily increases substantially over the 100# limit. You’ll have less wind drag (so better fuel economy), less noise, a lower centre of gravity, more chance of fitting under car parks and trees and an easier time getting things down! Does this rack fit a 2016 4x4 high roof sprinter with the 140" wheelbase with an A/C on top? Just looking at fitting my 4WD with a roof tent, thanks for the explanations, it is helpful. A rack’s load rating is a measurement of its weight capacity; thus, racks with higher load ratings will be able to handle heavier loads. Your insurance company has every right to say ‘sorry mate, you were overloaded’. %PDF-1.6 %���� Garry. Also, do we know if a longer rack can be mounted with cutter mounts in the front panels? This is the maximum amount of weight you can apply to the roof of your 4WD, and includes both the roof rack itself and anything on the roof rack. Weight on a roof rack makes a vehicle handle poorly, more likely to roll over, and reduces its fuel economy. Either way, lots of weight up top isn’t a good thing. Interesting; lets see what Mitsubishi have to say. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. Roof rack load limits are generally reflected in the way they mount to the roof and distribute the load. Told me 100kg static load. Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. h�b```�J��� cb����.Ov�t��a�|��K��:�S _st�ry��7��z3�Vt400(Uttt00�آa 6� �b`z����v�@� �e�F_�9L܌[o2d�ܭ�1}��P���9L�!00{lҌ@tl �W�� A lot of 4WD’s have a huge amount of weight on the rear axle, and much less on the front. My Prado already has a roof railing but not the bars, do you think I should just get a normal roof bars or that wouldn’t support 65 kg dynamic and around 210 kg static? A Everest is not a LC 200, not by a long shot. Perhaps you, your partner and the roof top tent weigh 210kg, but your vehicle is only rated to 100kg. The manufacturer of the roof rack will give a load rating, when installed as per their instructions. So, I’ve just bought a triton and I’m going to put a canopy and roof rack on it, was going to chuck the roof rack on the canopy as it can take a heavier load than the 80kg roof of the vehicle, BUT I’ve read a couple things lately that have stated it doesn’t matter if your canopy roof can hold 200kg, if the vehicle is only rated to hold a max 80kg then this means you can only hold 80kg whether its on the roof or the canopy roof, because, it’s not just about weight it’s also about raising the car’s centre of gravity and more weight above the height of the roof/s = greater dynamic weight and swaying and increases rollover likelyhood ect….. any thoughts or your understanding? 60kg per pair seems right, but that might not be for off road use. �Y��3�00'(B�� �/@ Hi wondering about adding extra bars. My wife and I just bought a 2019 Outlander with the turbo diesel engine. Supported by www.collegehillshonda.com. A 04/06/2020, 1:46:00 PM Toyota rates the 4Runner roof with a factory rack at "Max load 165 lbs evenly distributed." When you can only carry 100kg on the roof, fitting a 60kg rack to only be able to carry 40kg seems a bit pointless (and that’s not even considering the de-rating for off road use). The dynamic load limit is usually the one quoted by the supplier. If you are outside of this and you injure or kill someone, what do you think is going to happen? Know that when your vehicle is parked and you’re ready to climb into your roof top bed you are static and as such Rhino-Rack’s capability to handle weight becomes a lot more. #036 - What is the weight capacity of a Honda Roof Rack? 2. Did you know the roof on your 4WD has a weight limit? As a guideline, three times the stated roof rack capacity can be used in static mode (roof rack and tent included). Is Toyota saying that 120lbs is all that the roof can carry, OR are they saying that's all Toyotas crossrails will carry, OR i've heard the theory that that is dynamic load limit for when the vehicle is moving but that when its static (stationary) the roof can hold much more. This is because, in a static load, the force of the load on the platform remains constant. Flat bar running the length of the gutter. Hit the brakes and that load comes onto the front rests. Our 80 series racks are within 60mm, and the closer the better (except it is almost impossible to wash the roof!). So if your rack can handle a load, when driving, of 75kg, then it can handle 300kg when stationery. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. This is why I’ll never buy a full size steel roof rack again. Not exceeding the maximum roof loading rating. Query it with ARB – even ring their head office if you need to. I’m not really sure, asides from Outback Joe’s post as to how you calculate the difference, but it would be a lot, Interested in your comment “… and very few at 200kg (the new 200 Series Land Cruiser for example)”. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. Rhino-Rack Roof Rack 5th Gen 4Runner – CXB & SX Leg Kit + Backbone System. A good roof rack will have a similar maximum rating to the roof rating, so you probably won’t gain much, 3 months with a camper trailer, 4WD and toddler; the summary, Lake Argyle and the Bungles; amazing places in WA, Our Isuzu Dmax build for touring Australia, Our new Hybrid Camper; a Lifestyle Reconn R2, Why we moved from a soft floor to a hybrid camper trailer, 7 Amazing Camp Sites within 3 – 5 hours of Perth, Towing capacity; a simple guide to keep you legal, 20 things you should never do in a 4WD recovery. Gobi Rack has this design and, from what I can tell, was very popular. What is the load rating and weight limit of your roof rack? A few are 150kg and I believe the 200’s are 200kg. When considering a canopy for your 4WD, weight distribution is one of the most important things you should be thinking about. Great guide to learn more about roof racks. Two insurance claims with Club 4×4; my review, Snowys; the best place in Australia to buy your camping and outdoor gear. If you have a vehicle that is heavily loaded on the rear, consider having the roof racks further forward. If you aren’t moving, the weight on your roof is static. i’v currently got an Outlander with roof rails and am looking to install a rooftop tent. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I need to be able to run an RTT. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. Total weight = 40.2 lbs. Really need to work this out before I buy. That is absolutely ridiculous in so many ways. Sure, you can buy a full size steel roof rack for under $300, but do you trust it? This is the same for chassis damage through overloading. For some heavier tents – … Not sure if you got the Rooftop tent issue sorted, but basically the amount of weight a proper roof-rack set-up can handle (as in maximum stationery loading) is 4 times its mobile loading. why I’ll never buy a full size steel roof rack, Buying a 4WD Ute Canopy; the ultimate guide, https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/, Olive Hill Farm; incredible camping in Margaret River, 4WD Recoveries; a guide to the forces and correctly sizing recovery gear. Hey There, just installed a new canopy and have been told the static weight is 100kg, so am I right to assume that the dynamic would be 50kg or even less?? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? Centre of gravity is super important when it comes to a 4WDing. Actually, the warning sticker on a Front Runner RR states explicitly to stick the the vehicle manufacturers rule. 1. Can I re-use my older roof rack setups? they are dynamic load ratings. In fact, just the opposite. Also say you have 90# on your roof static load. Home Topics Motoring & Transport Motors Buying and Selling Roof rack loads - dynamic vs static Notices Welcome to Boards.ie; here are some tips and tricks to help you get started. If seen some roof racks that have the bottom some 150 – 200mm off the roof of your 4WD. Keep up the good work. Where do you draw the line with 4WD accessories. Assuming 50kg capacity is the dynamic, that means that even at a 100 kg static I still can’t put me 85 kg and my wife 50kg + the tent 65kg on top of the car. 1. 417 Likes, 8 Comments - Gladiator Gang (@gladiator.gang) on Instagram: “Would you drive like this? In your case, Mitsubishi; they should be able to help you out, as they can come from the factory with their canopy. When you start thinking about roof top tents, one of the first questions that arises is whether or not the roof of your car can support it. If you’ve driven the same 4WD with a decent amount of weight up top and then removed it all, you will see it very clearly in the corners and general driving, even in the city. What are you planning on putting on the roof rack? Static and dynamic load sounds as though you're suggesting there's some other variable beyond strapping or mounting gear on the rack. You can get lighter roof top tents than 65kg. The reason is simple; when you are off road, you put more stress on everything, so it is de-rated. endstream endobj startxref For this reason, I always recommend a quality built aluminium roof rack; they are substantially lighter and just as strong. That same Patrol had the steel rack removed not long ago, and replaced with a top quality Tracklander aluminium one that weighed under 1/3 of the steel one. Seat Covers; are you looking after your 4WD’s interior? I’ll let you know what they say. Thanks. Our maximum static weight rating is 600 lbs. endstream endobj 129 0 obj <>/Metadata 18 0 R/Outlines 35 0 R/PageLayout/OneColumn/Pages 126 0 R/StructTreeRoot 48 0 R/Type/Catalog>> endobj 130 0 obj <>/ExtGState<>/Font<>/XObject<>>>/Rotate 0/StructParents 0/Tabs/S/Type/Page>> endobj 131 0 obj <>stream But when moving, the forces applied are considerably larger due to inertia etc., hence the massive difference. It’s almost impossible, and your roof cops it way worse than that. A distinction must be made between dynamic and static load capacity. For most roof top tents, there’s a straight forward roof rack combination that will work for your vehicle. Using that set-up, it is still under the 165lbs dynamic weight limit. The load ratings applied to products by roof rack manufacturers and the car manufacturing are for when you are driving the vehicle on sealed roads, i.e. Hey Aaron, ARB Ascent canopy with Rhinorack VA bars? So tent weight allowed = 220 - rail crossbars weight. On a dual cab Ute this often means on the cab instead of the canopy. There is a lot of confusion out there, so let me simplify it. It looks like the MOPAR rack is a cutter mount? Our rack itself can handle significantly more weight than that, and we've had 250 lbs dynamic weight on it without issue, static capacity is certainly well above that. If you want to know what your 4WD is designed to carry, have a look in your owners manual or contact your vehicle manufacturer. How much do you really know about 4WD insurance? Right? 100kg on the roof equates to a massive amount of force every time you bounce up, down and side to side. Roof racks are the ideal storage area for light weight, bulky items like solar panels, Maxtrax, camp chairs, tables, tents, portable toilets, fishing rods and swags. What does the manufacturer say you can carry? ?IR�k ����z���GV,�h�=�o�HV$���{:�. Already, people are really starting to see the importance of overall 4WD weight. I’ve just bought a new (Sep’18) LC200 GXL with roof rails & trying to get info re roof rail carrying capacity. Noticed the paint bubbling up around the front pads, so pulled the racks. In the manual it says roof load capacity 80kg – is it possible to install descent roof racks and have a tent loaded up? I checked the car’s actual manual and it actually says 80 KG. Thanks for the response. If you have more weight on the roof than what your vehicle manufacturer has set, your vehicle is not roadworthy and the insurance company has a valid reason to deny or reduce your claim. ... Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. If you are a passenger in a 4WD, try and hold your arms out and keep them there while you are bouncing around. Any of the better known manufacturers (ARB, Tracklander, Rhino Rack etc) are good to look at, to see how things are done properly. Not sure if there’s a Facebook group or forums for those vehicles either; surely you aren’t the first person to do this with an Outlander. Suggestions? What should be the distance between the cross bars? I reckon that’s the first time I’ve ever heard of any company quoting static or dynamic weights – normally its just assumed to be the latter. You will not see any standard roof racks, camper shells, or common vehicle roofs rated for a dynamic rating of 450+lbs. Actually my current set up is yakima timberline crossbar kit that weigh about 15lbs and a treeline outdoor 2-3 person tent that weigh around 130lbs. Dynamic Load The main difference between a static and dynamic load lies in the forces produced by the weight of an object. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. If you want to know more about getting the perfect Ute canopy for your requirements, check this out; Buying a 4WD Ute Canopy; the ultimate guide. It’s important to have plenty of places to attach ratchet and occy straps. (plus body weight obviously?) Some of my first choices were the Gobi Stealth Rack, BajaRack Utility (Flat) Rack with sunroof cut out, Front Runner Slimline 2 Roof Rack, and the Rhino-Rack Pioneer Platform roof rack. A roof rack obviously helps spread the weight across the car’s frame, as opposed to directly on the roof, but it doesn’t mean you can carry more stuff when the car is in motion. Click to expand... Start adding weight to your roof rack. A typical Whispbar or Yakima roof carrying solution consists of: • A vehicle roof (obvious, right?) I’ve lost count of the number of badly overloaded roof’s that I’ve seen while travelling around WA. While the vehicle is in motion, many of these external factors will have a role in having an effect on the dynamic weight limit of your roof rack. Combine that with good quality clamps and you have a great roof rack. So in this instance, the LocknLoad platform effectively serves as the "crossbars." Several years ago we hit a nasty hole on a track out the back of Dwellingup in a 4WD with a cheap set of roof racks bolted on, and the force slid the whole arrangement forward about 200mm along the gutters. Also, if you’ve got any tips or questions, leave a comment below! Outback Joe has written an interesting post on that very topic – check it out here – https://outbackjoe.com/macho-divertissement/macho-articles/roof-loading-and-roof-top-tents/. It’s a big car. Beyond that, you have a ‘moral’ responsibility to drive a legal vehicle. 150 0 obj <>stream Unfortunately models that aren’t common run into all sorts of weird and wonderful issues like this, but I’m sure you’ll come to a resolution soon. The weight "recommended" by the roof rack manufacturer for the RR, has little bearing on this. That can’t be right can it? @MaximusThree ROOF RACK 900+ Pound Static Weight Limit & 300+ Pound…” Remember that the load capacity includes everything on the roof; gear plus any racks etc you mount up there. You need to verify this spec for both the vehicle and your roof rack. Asides from a lot of paint removed from the gutters and a bit of damaged pride, life continued. Look at the welds too; they should be smooth, have decent penetration (not look like the weld is sitting on top of the metal) and no holes or abnormalities. Whispbar removable roof racks are the quietest roof bars available and can be moved between cars using the latest smart foot technology. Even the light roof top tents are about 65kg. There is a lengthy but complete discussion of the dynamic weight rating vs static weight rating of your car or truck’s roof rack here: Roof Loading and Roof Top Tents. To check if a roof-top tent will work on your vehicle, look up the following information: Total tent weight: That should be in the tent's product specs. I have a mate who is up for just under a grand to have his roof repaired from a poor quality steel rack that dripped rusty water onto his roof. Cheers It’s just a pain that I can’t find anywhere the owner’s manual for my Holden Frontera from 1999 and with 2 doors. Major rust under there. Car and rack dynamic weight capacity: This measures the ability to support that tent weight while you're driving. The load ratings of 220lbs and 165lbs that the website references is for dynamic weight. Additional cross bars are available for purchase. Static Load vs. The dynamic weight capacity for any roof rack that we suggest, should have a dynamic weight limit of 165 lbs or more. In most cases, the static weight capacity of a pallet will far exceed its dynamic capacity or edge-rackable capacity. Good on you for taking the time to look into it. Many roof-top tent owners in the States talk about how a high vantage point resonates with them on a primal level. There are two things you need to consider when looking at the amount of weight on your roof racks. I spoke to someone recently who did the Canning Stock Route with a lot of weight up the top, and they could physically see the A pillars flexing under the stress. You can pretty clearly see evidence of this based on the way a roof rack is mounted to the vehicle, how the weight is distributed and how well its clamped down. Yep, lets say you have 150kg on a roof rack and roll your 4WD on the edge of a sand dune. So basically while driving, at-most I can put 220lbs of weight ("dynamic weight") on the roof rack. When the roof begins to buckle, subtract 10 pounds. 141 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<136EDDA8A7B2CD42B6438EDDB7A9C4B6>]/Index[128 23]/Info 127 0 R/Length 75/Prev 221511/Root 129 0 R/Size 151/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream There are 32 ways to make your 4WD illegal, and overloading the roof racks is one of them! 0 Go over it though, and expect to see damage in time to the roof of your vehicle and the roof racks. If they are the genuine roof racks, find out what they are rated to. We’ve been seriously considering a roof top tent, however upon reading your article I checked the roof load capacity in the owner’s manual and it says 50kg. Steel that has been poorly painted will rust, and that ends up on the panels of your vehicle. Real world examples? The static weight limit -when parked-can be higher than the dynamic weight. As well those are small screws holding the factory rack to the roof and roof sheetmetal tends to get banged up real easy these days. When you are stopped, the roof capacity is substantially higher. Thanks for the wonderfully useful article. 165 lbs limit - 40.2 lbs rack & accessories = 124.8 lbs available load capacity. Eventually something has to break! of an evenly distributed product on the pallet. Think carefully about how you spread the weight. I’m surprised the limit is that low. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Making these racks perfect for your iKamper, Tepui, or Yakima Roof Top Tent (RTT). There’s nothing worse than having to struggle with hooks that don’t fit over the support bars just to safely store your gear. Yours. Does this increase the load carrying capacity of the roof rack? KSJ08, nimby and Prime2357 like this. Dynamic vs Static Loads Dynamic is when you are driving your vehicle and there is motion . This is the maximum load while driving. I would say you’d get away with it no problems unless you were doing nasty roads, but if it ever came off and hurt someone it could be problematic for you. For custom and unlisted vehicles it is up to the installer to determine the maximum weight for the given application. However, it goes beyond this; you will have an on road rating, and an off road roof rack rating, which is usually 50 – 75% of the rated on road capacity. Aerodynamic in design, the 03-09 GX470 Aluminum Roof Rack for sale comes standard with 8 aluminum cross bars. This is particularly the case with dual cabs, who start at a big disadvantage when it comes to load position relative to the rear axle. A bump just beyond what your vehicle will handle can lay it on its side, and when you have over 100kg on the roof that happens so much easier. With a dynamic load, some outside factor causes the forces of the weight of the load to change. A dynamic load refers to the weight that is placed on an object and then put in motion. Whether its just strong mesh, or little hooks in convenient locations, its worth paying attention to. 1. %%EOF Not very good when its mounted to a 4WD! I’ve seen roof racks designed to carry 60kg, but it clearly says not suitable for offroad use. hޜ�mO9ǿ�_^UQ? Thanks a lot for sharing! thoughts? What do you think? Our stock mounting hardware will fit rack bars with a cross-section of 3.25" width x 1.5" height. I doubt that you could argue that fitting more cross beams would increase the rating. Not sure if Nissan is talking about static or dynamic? What is the load capacity of my Thule roof rack? There is a vast difference in quality between roof racks on 4WD’s. Whether you're planning your next overlanding trip or just need a solid rack system for your weekend gear, we've got options for your 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler 2 Door with the Factory Hard Top or Soft Top. When static, the load remains constant and doesn't change over time. • Static vs dynamic forces • On road vs off road usage Calculating Load Ratings To calculate the load rating of your vehicle’s roof, you first need to understand that this needs to be derived from the ratings of various components. I called Mitsubishi today and customer care said they’ll get back to me. Most 4WD’s can do up to 100kg, with a few at 150kg and very few higher. I guess it boils down to the weight limit of the 4runner being only 165 lbs (dynamic). Though roof-top tents have become a phenomenon in the U.S. in recent years, they’ve been around for decades in Australia, where camping above the realm of creepy crawlies was instantly recognized as a genius idea. So long as you are within the roof rack weight limit and vehicle manufacturers specifications, you won’t have an issue. thoughts? I used my ob roof rack to carry two 14'+ kayaks for a season. I've also been searching to no avail for the static weight limitation for the Ascent when attaching a Yakima LocknLoad directly to the side rails with the Yakima Timberline system. Anything you can do to reduce the weight on your 4WD will benefit you. The ladder itself has a weight capacity of 320 lbs. Regardless of who you have 4WD Insurance with, every policy requires the vehicle to be in a roadworthy state. I find having a cage version all the way around fantastic, as it stops things moving forward and side to side. If you are just climbing up and down and sleeping in the tent you won’t have an issue, unless you are well over double the dynamic rating. I would strongly advise not putting that much weight up there as it will hugely affect the handling and safety. Be sure again, to check the on road and off road weight ratings, and stick within them! I won’t bore you with the maths, but the static load, or the load when you are standing still, is roughly 10x this. mynameistory, Feb 13, 2020 #22. I get the dynamic vs static weight argument but that still doesn’t tell me how to calculate the static weight. The 80kg will be a dynamic roof loading – when the vehicle isn’t moving you will be able to add more weight than that. But still doesn’t mention static load capacity. . The 200 series Landcruiser roof carrying capacity is 200kg, for example. The static weight limit can be higher than the dynamic weight. The roof will take this all day, every day, providing you are within the rated capacities. When you are travelling on rough tracks, side angles are dangerous. Then the pallet could be placed on a conveyor system or be moved around a warehouse by a forklift. Instead of the weight of your roof racks being spread over 2 – 5 mounts, it is evenly spread along the whole length of the gutter. First off don’t buy a heavy roof top tent that the dynamic weight of your roof or roof system can’t handle. Is it even worth considering? Whilst roof racks might be an easy place to store gear, the less weight up top the better. It’s on a 2016 Hilux. The load rating of a roof system is less when your vehicle is dynamic compared to when you’re still, or static. The dynamic load for the bars should not exceed 165lbs. When a 4WD is designed and built, the manufacturer gives it a maximum roof loading rating. 128 0 obj <> endobj Great article and it’s opened my eyes, I now point at 4wd’s on the road and go “overloaded”. I wasn’t expecting to have so much issue due to the unusual model. Can I mount your roof rack recommendations from your Buyer's Guide on a car with a panoramic roof? 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